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Пришло время похудеть [11 Oct 2010|11:54am]

kimberleyat
Много раз слышала я об этих котлетках, но ни раза не было возможности их попробовать. И мама никогда в моем детстве их не готовила. Поэтому, наткнувшись на рецепт в одном журнале, решила, что время пришло похудеть! Так увлеклась, что нажарила 2 сковородки! Так что теперь обед на неделю вперед есть, надо только гарниры менять!

Глинтвейн это подогpетое вино со специями. Глинтвейн очень хоpошо согpевает и помогает пpи пpостуде, его наиболее выгодно готовить зимой и в любоее холодное вpемя. Для глинтвейна используется, как пpавило, молодое кpасное легкое сухое вино содеpжанием спиpта от 8,5 до 12,5%. Готовить глинтвейн из выдеpжанных, а тем более стаpых доpогих вин не следует, это бездаpное использование доpогих хоpоших вин и пpизнак дуpного вкуса.

Языки бывают разные, на них говорят представители разных наций, стран... А кроме этого языки можно потреблять в пищу :).

В продаже бывают говяжьи, телячьи, свиные языки, языки ягненка... Их продают свежими, шпигованными, копчеными и отварными. У нас на базарах порой можно встретить готовые бараньи язычки, приготовленные по особому рецепты - очень вкусные.

Холодные или теплые копченые и отварные языки, нарезанные тонкими ломтиками, являются прекрасным добавлением к спарже, артишокам, грибам...

Говяжий язык считается наиболее вкусным, при этом отличается специфическим вкусом.

Пройдясь по мясным лавкам одного из местных рынков, выбрал наиболее, как мне показалось, свежий и красивый говяжий язык, и пошел домой готовить.
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Pellets as "treats" [02 Jun 2008|01:06pm]

akkara
Hi everyone, I just stumbled upon this community and I think it's just great!

I have a cockatiel and a budgie, and currently have successfully gotten the 'tiel converted to a pellet diet. The budgie is being a bit more stubborn about it :(

Anyway, the method I used for converting my cockatiel is different from most others I have seen posted here, so I wanted to share with you in case it might be helpful.

For about 2 months I tried other, more traditional methods (limiting seed availability to short periods during the day, making a mash, etc) and the 'tiel would have nothing of it. So we switched her cage dishes back to seed for a while. She's a spoiled brat though, and spends most of the day out of the cage on a play gym (still able to go in and out of her cage as she pleases) Anyway, we put a little dish on the play gym for treats while she is out during the day. Before the conversion process, dish usually had a sunflower seed or two, some pieces of carrot, maybe some cooked rice. (ie things she would gobble up ina heartbeat). We slowly started to switch these snacks for pellets(over the course of a week or two), and seemed to make her believe they were a treat food! Once we got that out of the way, she gladly will gobble up any pellets in her (Former) seed dishes!

Maybe she's just a gullible baby, but it worked out great for us.

Didn't seem to work out with the budgie though, and he sees our 'tiel munching on pellets every day :(
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It's that time again... [04 May 2006|02:42pm]

banshea
The birds are settled into their new home, and Dad's some 3000 miles away and incapable of messing up their diet. Time, yet again, for pellet conversion.

Duncan was very excited when he saw me messing with his food dish and ran over... Then he gave it a look like, "What the hell is this?" and left. Now Duncan seems to be staking me out. He's latched onto my shoulder. I'm quite sure he thinks that he'll figure out where the seed went from there.

Ironically, shortly after I took away my birds' seed, I hung a new bird feeder outside, chock full of seed. I hope I'll get to watch chickadees at it soon.
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The Best Way to convert???? [22 Jun 2005|04:32pm]

bittersweet_03
I know this has probably been answered thousands of times, but what is the best way to get my seed-junkie Oscar (green cheek conure) off the sweets and to a healthy pelleted lifestyle. I've only had him for about a month and was scared to convert to pellets right away since she's so petite anyway. She only weighs 67 grams. Oscar is a year old, and just came to me in the beginning of the month. Right now, he eats Kaytee Forti-Diet and Kaytee Pellets of some sort. :(
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Pancake recipe for conversion [03 Jun 2005|04:18pm]

ohhh_sebastian
i read this receipe on one of my lists:

crush the harrisons cubes into very fine grain and mix into
human pancake mix. Make pancakes and freeze them to save yourself prep
work. I use an apple cinnamon just add water type of mix. I also
moisten it more because the crushed food makes it dry. I have added things
like organic apple pieces and juice and shredded carrot. These
additions also help raise the moisture. I cook this into small pancakes, layer
them one by one in wax paper and freeze them in a big zipper bag. That
way I can microwave one a day using the frozen roll/muffin setting on
the microwave.
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[01 Jun 2005|02:22pm]

sabr

note_to_parrot

Dear Feathered Friend,

I know you've been talking to your cousin, the rooster, but despite what he will tell you, I will never enjoy being woke up at seven in the morning without reason.

Millet and Mirrors,
Your human.
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Harrison's [13 Apr 2005|09:54am]

prairieprincess
I called them on their 800 number after my last post - wonderful and helpful!!! They are going to send me for FREE some samples of their High Potency Fine pellets and a sample of a treat they recommend. I was so impressed that I went ahead and ordered a bag of each for my little guy :) Now I just hope he'll cooperate and at least give it a try!!
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Pretty Bird, Natural Gold pellets [13 Apr 2005|09:18am]

prairieprincess
Does anyone know anything about this brand of pellets? It is what my breeder gave to me when I bought my GCC. The breeder said she just gives her birds seeds, but sold me this bag when I said I wanted to wean him to pellets. Oliver will NOT eat this.. I've tried crushing it, eating it myself, mixing it with baby food (carrots) and mixing it with seeds - the seeds are always gone but the bits of pellets are still left in his dish.

Perhaps it is the pellets he doesn't like - should I try another brand - or do they all basically taste the same?

Please let me know what you know about this brand and if it is good for him :)
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where to buy pellets [03 Mar 2005|04:41am]

blushingmad
I can't find pellets anywhere. I would rather not order over the net if it is possible, but if you have a site you trust with all your heart and have good prices, I'd love to be informed.

I'm going to try and get my little guy to try some pellets. He's on a seed diet with *some* vegetables, we are working on it! I'm also trying fruit but he's scared terrified of it. I thought pellets might help. They are definitely better than seeds though, right? I'm hoping they are because I think he'll like them. He's finally opened up to other seeds which he used to pick around before and some veggies.

Thanks everyone.
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[27 Feb 2005|04:25am]

hilzarie
[ mood | cheerful ]

Yay! I've got my budgies completely switched to pellets. They're on harrison's high potency super fine right now. At first, I gave them a pellet mix, but they just kept picking the harrisons out and eating only those. So now, that's all they get.

I've been monitoring their weights. I had one little budgie at 28 grams, one at 30, one at 37, and one at 49(gasp!). After about a month, 28 became 30, 30 stayed at 30, 37 became 35, and 49 became 42. They all seem happier and healthier and they seem to genuinely enjoy their food. So beside me right now, I have four little budgies crunching pellets like popcorn. Zhi, the 28 to 30, is licking the powder of chewed pellets off the edge of the dish. I'm glad that the lighter ones are keeping their weight and the heavier ones are shrinking. Cici, the 49 to 42, looks much healthier now. I'm letting them all grow out their flight feathers, so when hers finish growing, she'll get a lot more exercise, too.

So, yeah. I'm happy about that, so I thought I'd share!

Budgie love!

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cookie dough method and tips to tempt your bird [17 Feb 2005|03:31pm]

ohhh_sebastian
[ mood | confused ]

This site had an article with some good methods for conversion listed. I thought the cookie dough method was particularly interesting and some of the tips.

Weaning method: Put a seed dish in the cage in the morning and in the evening (with a separate dish for pellets) for two hours. (Additionally, always keep pellets, fresh foods, and water in the cage as well.) Gradually reduce the time they get seed (as you see them eating pellets)- two hours becomes one, one becomes a half hour, etc. Since birds primarily eat in the morning and night, you do not have to worry about them starving. But the bird will have to try the pellets when they get hungry during the day.

Mash Method: Another method is to serve pellets in a different form. For example, soaking it in water or apple juice and creating a mash out of it. (If you try this, please note that this food cannot be left all day, since they start to spoil quickly. Maximum: 1 hour.) Many birds might try this, but here's the catch: not all pellets are in a mashed form. You will have to crush them with a rolling pin or buy a ready-made mash, such as the Harrison's brand, however, does have a mashed form made primarily for finches that is also good for converting picky birds if you find this is the only way to get your bird to try pellets.

Cookie Dough Method: Another way to convert a bird is to mix Harrison's Fine Grind and your bird's seed, cover with water & wait 5 minutes. Stir with a fork until the mix has a cookie-dough consistency. Feed this (with perhaps a few seeds pressed into the top to get the bird started) daily. Only make as much as the bird can eat for two days, max. Store in fridge.

Tips to Tempt Your Bird with Pellets

1. Many companies offer free samples. Try several brands.
2. Combine cooked pasta, a favorite strained baby food (like carrots or applesauce) & stir in the pellets.
3. Pulverize pellets & add to soft foods.
4. Push pellets into soft cooked beans, a piece of cheese, sweet potato, cooked carrot, or bread.
5. Eat WITH your bird- birds eat as a flock. Praise the bird for eating pellets.
6. Make a tiny peanut butter & pellet sandwich.
7. Eat them first, then offer them to the bird. Act as if they are the best thing in the world. Or, have them see another bird eating pellets, and praise that bird.
8. Place the pellet dish near the highest perch in the cage.


from: http://www.squawkandhowl.com/info.html

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My Budgie Conversion Story [21 Jan 2005|08:37pm]

amateurastro
I have two African Greys (9 years old and 8 1/2 years old) that have been pellets since my wife and I weaned them. When I got two Budgies for my children, here is how I converted them to pellets:

I just finished converting my two English Budgies to Harrison's extra
fine Adult Lifetime pellets. It was a struggle! I wish that the
breeders wouldn't wean them onto seeds.

The two most important items you will need to convert your birds are
one, a good gram scale for daily weighing, and two, perseverance! A
food scale works well and can be gotten almost anywhere. I usually
put a small coffee saucer plate on it to put enough weight on the
scale to be in it's (hopefully) linear range.

Since Budgies are so hard to convert you need to take their weight
daily. This should always be at the same time, for me first thing in
the morning before they chowed down anything worked. Take two or
three days on their regular diet to get a good baseline of their
weight fluctuations before you make any changes. All weights must be
written down so you can see any trends.

The rule is a 10% weight loss is OK, but anything over that indicates
that the bird is not getting enough to eat. For example, Nina started
at 41 grams. When she got down to 36 1/2 grams I knew she wasn't
getting enough to eat and would take corrective action.

Converting my birds took me 6 months of effort. The strategy was to
mix their usual seed diet with the Harrison's and slowly reduce the
percentage of seeds over time. I started with the birds usual daily
amount of seeds and mixed this with pellets to get a 50% seed, 50%
pellet mixture. I kept them on this diet for a few weeks to get them
used to look of the pellets. Since they could get their usual caloric
intake from the seeds alone by picking them out of the mixture, there
was no weight loss during this period.

I then reduced the mixture to 2/3 Harrison's 1/3 seed. Now the
Budgies needed to eat some pellets to fulfill there daily caloric
needs. At this time we started adding vegetables on hangers in the
cage and the Budgies would munch carrot and broccoli - hunger is a
powerful motivator.

When their weight dropped below the 10% loss limit, I would add some
millet spray to the cage for them to eat and get their weight back up.
I did not change the pellet seed mixture as I wanted them to get used
to it as is. Usually one day of millet eating would get their weight
back, and then some (millet pigs!).

Slowly I reduced the seed/pellet ratio insuring that they never lost
more than 10% of their baseline weight. I would pre-mix the
pellet-seed mixture for the week and would throw out uneaten food
daily. This would insure that every morning they would start with the
same ratio of pellets to seeds. The Budgies would typically pick out
the seeds first thing in the morning, then spend the rest of the day
eating the pellets. In the evening we would give them their vegetable
treat.

After a good 6 to 7 months of this, my two Budgies (Nina - female,
SonSon, male) are totally converted to Harrison's pellets and
vegetables. A good, healthy diet that will help them live long, happy
lives.
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[20 Jan 2005|08:19pm]

geefunk
[ mood | content ]

For my Indian Ringneck should I buy Harrison's fine, or coarse? He's eating kaytee conversion donut pellets right now.

another note: I have to mash up my budgies pellets, so I'm going to get the Harrison's mash! I think they will like it alot better! (I know I will :)

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Harrison's Super Fine [19 Jan 2005|12:21pm]

happykitty69
[ mood | blank ]

Hi Folks! I've been very lax in my efforts to convert my budgies to pellets. I was going to do it and then one of my birds got sick and I got sidetracked. Then I read somewhere that converting budgies to pellets is near impossible and so I just dumped the mash and pellets that I had into the seed to make a big mixure. So, here I am again, at the crossroads . . .

I ordered a large bag of Harrison's Super Fine Pellets and will start again.

My plan is simple: I'm going to take the bird's seed out of the cage in the evening when they go to bed. In the morning I'm going to give them only pellets, then in the afternoon, I'll give them seeds (just two tablespoons for two birds), and I'm going to hold off on the millet as much as possible.

Right now I give them toast in the morning, apple sometimes and seed mix. They don't like veggies, though I will try again. They sometimes like eggs, sometimes not.

Anyway, long story short, I want the best for my birds too. So I will make the effort to get them converted to pellets. I hope they will not be too crabby about it.

THANKS FOR THE REMINDER, ENCOURAGEMENT and FORUM!!! Peace out sweeties!

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A whole bunch of questions [18 Jan 2005|11:07pm]

hilzarie
I've finally decided that it would indeed be best to convert my little freaks to pellets (they're budgies). I read the link, this one, that everyone's been posting. I read a while ago that birds get bored with pellets since they can't pull the hulls off of them. So, you're supposed to play with your bird after it eats. I've been feeding my birds veggies and fruit for quite a while. I did know that seeds only was not a good diet. But after reading that link, I think that probably my birds are still not getting enough of the vitamins they need. Does anyone know anything about this? I want them to be healthy, mentally and physically. They have mineral blocks, toys, spray millet, etc.

Also, I would like more info on exactly how much I should feed them per day. The last post has many comments, of very different natures. I've read two tablespoons per bird per day of seed... But, come to think of it, that does seem like a lot. And I'm pretty sure one of my budgies is overweight... she's about 43 grams. So, there are a lot of questions. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

Edit:
Even though I'm feeding my birds way too much seed still, I've seen each of them try the pellets, even the ones who haven't eaten them before! Yay!
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Good idea for a community! Kudos! [19 Jan 2005|12:21am]

brachypelmic
Just to get some more conversation going on this community, and I figure a good place to start-

What is your favorite method for conversion? I have successfully converted 3 parrots to pellets (they werent eating seed by any fault of my own). Each parrot we let them have both pellets and seeds for a few days, then completely took out the seed. They all took to it within hours, havent had any problems since!

Just wondering what the differing opinions are, and what other people have had success with. It will be good to know. :~)

Edit: Also, it would be cool if you made the comment link say "bite a pellet" and "2 bites of pellets" or something like that... Just a random thought...
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my pride and joy [18 Jan 2005|07:32pm]

lilyprodigious
Im sure just about anyone reading this has seen my posts about my budgie, Joy.

He drives me crazy.

he was deffinily noy an impulse bird. I read everthing I could find on parakeets, parrots, and birds in general befiore bringing him home.

he was raised on smashed-zupreem, a little seed, fruit and veggies. on the four hour ride home from the breeder, i noticed he wasnt eating his parakeet sized zupreem.


I then commited the horrible sin which has been the bane of my existence ever since...

I gave him seed.

A few days later, I started mixing pellets (not smashed) in. (I had failed to understand that the breeders comment about food processing pellets applied to the size of pellet I had bought.)

He ignored the pellets. I kept on mixing them in, but he ate no pellets. After a few weeks, I started to udnerstand that he needed them smashed. I have yet to find a good way to smash them other than fingernails: I almost always have pellets jammed up my nails. Food processor doesnt work, rolling pin doesnt work, mortar and pestle works a little but takes a year and a day and still leaves some whole...

He does eat them. He knows they're food. He takes them from my hand with alot of coaxing... but I sarted the weaning process over a month ago and I firmly belive he lives on seed, cheerios, and veggies all day. (plus the tiny bit I convince him to eat from my hand.) There is always very little poop on the paperv (which I change before I leave for school) when I get home.

Today i put a tablespoon of seed in his dish, all measured, all crushed. He's eaten maybe a quarter of that all day, and only from my hand or from him "foraging" on my leg or the tbale. He was getting really lethargic tonight so I let up and let him have 3/4 of a tbalespoon of seed a little alter than I normally give him seed. (im using bloolarks plan) He also had seed this morning.

He eats veggies, and attacks them when its getting to dinner time.

For a while, he seemed to be weaning... but then he stopped.

WHAT AM I DOING WRONG?

(and I know it was awful of me to give him seed, but I have yet to read a book specifically about parakeets which doesnt say seed is the best diet for your bird, I really felt it couldnt be that bad.)
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